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I recently freaked out big time over a comment my bf made about having a crush on an actress years ago. I freaked out because he never had a crush on me till we started dating. It made me doubt our entire relationship- his feelings for me, his reasons for being with me, his interest in me. ...But we never actually started getting to know each other until we started dating... so how can he have felt anything for me? But that's not how I saw it at the time...

But this incident got me thinking about how my brain seems to function and take in information so much differently than many other people... "normal people" whatever that means to you. I think instead of just living I analyze EVERYTHING. I constantly take in body language and word choice and tone of voice and try to contort it to force it to fit into my narrow view of the world... I've always liked to think I have an open mind and broad view but I twist everything to hurt and be hurtful to me. Somehow, someway I find the one piece of evidence, the one hole that ruins everything- my relationships, my self esteem- it can be as simple as I am having a good day and someone I don't know treats me with hostility for whatever reason, and that makes me doubt everything about myself. Like if I'd have handles it differently, if I had been a different person, the situation could have been positive.

And tonight my bf told me, but in no way meanly, that he wouldn't want to live in my brain. I realized I don't either. It's killing me; my perception of the world. The reason I have survived myself is because I have learned how to live with it. How to fake it.

He tells me I seem lost all the time- a lot of people tell me that actually and I believe this is why; I am listening to two voices: I see the world two ways simultaneously, sometimes more, and it takes me a while sometimes to figure out which voice is talking- crazy or sane. And I'm not even exactly sure which is which anyway. I am constantly, constantly, second guessing myself and everything I do or feel or want. I am constantly seeing the world from everyone else's point of view... like there is no right or wrong, good or evil- just differences in perception. But this in itself feels wrong...how can there be no good or evil?

Who sets the line- wrong can be anything- murder, jealousy, sexual urges, keeping the extra 5 cents a cashier gives you...the answer changes depending on who you ask... Or for example you find it wrong when someone cuts you off or doesn't turn on their blinker and causes you to slam on the brakes. It causes you discomfort and upsets you- rightly so, that's why we have laws- to prevent accidents and near misses. But then you cut someone off and it's ok- you can't understand why someone wouldn't let you over or let you pass because can't they see you're late for work or an appointment or have an emergency?.... Why is it ok in one case and not the other? Who knows why that asshole cut you off.... well you do- because it's probably the same damn reasons you cut others off. Who sets the standard of right and wrong? It's like every single thing we do- good or bad is done for someone's benefit and every single thing we do- good or bad is going to help or hurt everyone else involved however minutely. How do we live our lives with kindness and consideration when every action has 2 opposite effects when every action will ultimately do some damage even if it is only the damage of minor inconvenience.

And I am constantly over-analyzing everything to learn how to not be crazy. ever. Like I am a sane person living in a crazy persons brain and I never quite know which person my thoughts are coming from. I am trying so hard to learn the "sane" "correct" "proper" way to live, because everything seems wrong or bad in some way, and just copy what I see to make sure I am doing things "right" that I am just a human replicator. I am so convinced that everything I say and do is crazy or wrong. I am so paralyzed by this self doubt that I can barely breathe. I fight agoraphobia- I fight the fear of messing up. because I am so convinced if I do anything but lay down and die or come out from under the covers I WILL mess up. I WILL be bad at it. That I am unworthy of the space I was given to inhabit but have never earned by being useful... But I can only do it by copying other people's actions, by replicating what I see "sane people" doing and saying and feeling because it must be the right way.

And how the fuck does someone go from a simple meaningless unimportant side comment to existential life-ending questions?

 

By andine on Sat, 01-19-13, 09:13

sorry you are having trouble w/ this. therapy can be helpful.

meditation can also teach us how to calm the mind. in meditation terms, what you are describing has been called "monkey mind", jumping from place to place, not being able to settle.

seeking some kind of help/training may help you learn how to focus and prioritize your thoughts.

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By Me- As I am inside on Sun, 01-20-13, 02:35

Thank you. I know I should meditate, I used to, but it's so hard to find any space between thoughts... they just force their way into my bubble until I give up. That's a personal problem though... I need to be more focused.

Thank you for the term "monkey mind" I looked it up and I feel less alone and scared.

“Tell me one last thing,” said Harry. “Is this real? Or has this been happening inside my head?”
“Of course it is happening inside your head, Harry, but why on earth should that mean that it is not real?”

By caro0905 on Sat, 01-19-13, 15:06

wow. i have never heard what goes on in my head summarized so well.

all i can say is that you are not alone.

and andine is right, meditation and therapy can help. but it's hard when there is a part of you that knows what you are feeling is not like other people. and you want to get better, but in your mind - you can't.

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By Me- As I am inside on Sun, 01-20-13, 02:37

Thank you so much. I can't tell you how much it means to me to know that I am not alone, even though I feel sad that you understand. This isn't even a little easy. It's awful everyday. I am here for you if you ever want to talk or vent or panic.

“Tell me one last thing,” said Harry. “Is this real? Or has this been happening inside my head?”
“Of course it is happening inside your head, Harry, but why on earth should that mean that it is not real?”

By toterms on Sat, 01-19-13, 16:50

Being prepared instinctively? Being centered? Knowing yourself? Accepting flaws and inconsistency? Focus, laughter, calming? Contentment. Gratitude. Joy. Being comfortable. The first step might be seeing a therapist. It is a great outlet and a good one teaches techniques as andine already mentioned. For what you've described, having a therapist is necessary to direct the suffering away from your being to something that helps rather than hurts you. Practicing meditation helps me let go of the negative energy to sense peace and wellness clearly. Medication is a major factor in reducing exaggerated, and sometimes untrue, thoughts and emotions. Try new and old hobbies pastimes to see what brings relaxation. I hope you are having a good weekend. Think good thoughts!

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By Me- As I am inside on Sun, 01-20-13, 02:39

Thank you for your support, I will definitely work harder to succeed with therapy. I hope you are having a good weekend too.

“Tell me one last thing,” said Harry. “Is this real? Or has this been happening inside my head?”
“Of course it is happening inside your head, Harry, but why on earth should that mean that it is not real?”

By andine on Sun, 01-20-13, 18:40

a very simple meditation is to count your breaths and/or think about the tip of your nose. another that i like is "breathe in compassion, breathe out compassion". you can "make it up", it's your meditation. you can can meditate on "kindness", what ever you want. make it easy and simple, perhaps only start out for 5 minutes. 5 minutes is a long time.

we all have "monkey mind". :)

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By toterms on Mon, 01-21-13, 12:19

andine's post reminded me that coloring mandalas is very theraputic and a kind of meditation. If you do not have a printer available drawing your own is ideal.

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By un.chien.mandalou on Fri, 01-25-13, 21:09

you DEFINITELY aren't alone in this. at all. i have been experiencing these tendencies for as long as i can remember, and it definitely escalated when i started dating in late high school (i'm a college senior currently).

unfortunately, these thoughts stem from deep-seated insecurity. at least for me. and it's a HUGE struggle to work past it. i am currently in the process of learning to cope with it. and learning to tell myself to calm down, think rationally, and not trust the delusions (i can make ANYTHING seem real. it's more of a curse than anything else).

stay strong. deep breathing helps. inhale as much as you can, slowly, through your nose. exhale completely, slowly, through pursed lips, like you're blowing on soup to cool it down. it's no permanent solution, but it can help you avoid hyperventilating.

if you want to talk more, feel free to message me or respond. keeping you in my thoughts. the fight's not easy, but i think it's worth it.

-a

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By Me- As I am inside on Fri, 01-25-13, 23:27

Thank you so much un.chien, from the little you describe i really feel like you understand me and I am not alone in this. I don't understand where my insecurities come from.... they have been around and growing for as long as I can remember. I can do the same.. twist anything into 20 different realities or fears until nothing seems real or safe anymore and I cant even breathe. I'm here for you.

“Tell me one last thing,” said Harry. “Is this real? Or has this been happening inside my head?”
“Of course it is happening inside your head, Harry, but why on earth should that mean that it is not real?”

By un.chien.mandalou on Sat, 01-26-13, 08:11

you're so very welcome. you are definitely not alone. my insecurities have been around as long as i can remember too... it can feel frustrating because they feel like your identity, not just an issue that you struggle with. hang in there. this will all heal with time.

-a

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By reneemkrysl on Thu, 01-31-13, 16:47

i also have these same behaviors. i have tried to meditate and find it extremely difficult! i sleep with the tv because the noise in my head is too much i cant sleep. i just run things over and over in my head, looking and analyzing. i have deep questions about existence, right and wrong, and who i really am. it's a running joke in my family and friends about how lost i am all the time. half my life is spent somewhere else?

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By -art-is-life- on Fri, 02-01-13, 15:50

Same here. I freak out around anyone I'm expected to talk to. I'm older than everyone in my classes but I feel like I'm not the chill experienced guy I'm supposed to be. I'm just some awkward bastard who roamed into their department and they're obliged to put up with. I imagine them all seeing straight through me, knowing that I'm physically weak, emotionally fucked up, unemployed, a virgin. I also know a lot of them would help me if this was just some shyness problem. People always try to talk to me but I say stupid shit and scare them off because I'm so nervous.

I think I need someone to live with. I might be able to build off that, someone who was as messed up as me and wants a wingman to challenge eachother, and to go over the day's events, collaboratively pointing out eachother's false assumptions from the day. To have stability without isolation for a while, and to ease into being social alongside someone else who I know understands my uneasiness and can look past it while still challenging me to step over it. I want people to feel comfortable around me, but as soon as they realize my social skills are so shallow they walk away, and I can't get a normal looking life to convince them I'm normal because I don't have any friends to practice with. It's like a never-ending cycle.

Where am I?

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